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Alan m
09-30-2017, 06:45 PM
how are you getting 8x4 sheets onto the bed and off again without damaging them or yourself.
iv a small shop so it is awkward to do.
I'm looking at building some kind of cart that will roll them in and tilt them up level with the bed

Gary Campbell
09-30-2017, 06:56 PM
Alan...
If they are prefinished and you slide them, you scratch them. Here is one from my archives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsFt-CMsbvs

Alan m
09-30-2017, 06:59 PM
Alan...
If they are prefinished and you slide them, you scratch them. Here is one from my archives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsFt-CMsbvs

com on now that's just teasing. ;)
I wish I could fit and afford such a system.

I would be happy with a bog standard set up

Alan m
09-30-2017, 07:00 PM
not prefinished but you never know. mostly bare mdf or plywood.

dlcw
09-30-2017, 09:01 PM
I lean them against the table and carefully slide them on. After they are cut, I have a mobile outfeed table that I slide the sheets onto for sorting and labeling parts. This way I've got a clean table ready to start cutting the next sheet while I'm sorting the previous sheet. I use a 1/8" piece of MDF as a sacrificial board under the sheets. This way my spoil board is never cut and the sacrificial board doesn't seem to effect the vacuum hold down.

dmidkiff
10-01-2017, 09:39 AM
There are a couple of ideas here.

http://www.talkshopbot.com/forum/showthread.php?11139-my-vacuum-lift&highlight=Air%2FVaccum+sheet+lift

Alan m
10-01-2017, 10:13 AM
is that a home made set up or is it fully off the shelf.
is it really expensive

waynelocke
10-01-2017, 10:28 AM
Shop Carts are a bit pricey, near $1500 with shipping, but allow you you to load or unload vertically or horizontallly and have a hydraulic jack so they can be set to the height you need. They will hold 11 or 12 sheets of 3/4” material and. The pivot point allows one person to tilt a full load eithe6r direction. The casters are large and high quality. I have two, one purchased at an auction, and they have been trouble free for 15 years or so.

You can slide prefinished onto the bot with ease and no damage.

bill.young
10-01-2017, 10:42 AM
This is how Rob Bell does it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe0GHflYyT0

nat_wheatley
10-01-2017, 12:10 PM
+1 for the Shop Carts. Pricey, as mentioned, but invaluable if you're in a production environment.

tri4sale
10-01-2017, 01:27 PM
Poor man's Shop cart :)

Portamate PM-1800 Panel Carrier
https://www.amazon.com/Portamate-PM-1800-Carrier-Allows-Person/dp/B01AWI8ILW/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1506878822&sr=8-5&keywords=portamate

Alan m
10-01-2017, 01:33 PM
http://www.laoekspert.ee/products/trolleys-for-special-purpose-board-trolley-1900x700x1470mm-500kg-t1389

I'm thinking more like this .

Alan m
10-01-2017, 01:35 PM
http://www.laoekspert.ee/products/trolleys-for-special-purpose-board-trolley-1900x700x1470mm-500kg-t1389

I'm thinking more like this .

its a shame its so expensive. that's plus vat and delivery.
I'm going to try and make one similar

tri4sale
10-01-2017, 09:45 PM
http://www.laoekspert.ee/products/trolleys-for-special-purpose-board-trolley-1900x700x1470mm-500kg-t1389

I'm thinking more like this .

Weld a couple of the PM-1800 together and save a few hundred bucks.

chiloquinruss
10-01-2017, 10:38 PM
I have a roll around workbench that I use for doing my buildups. It is slightly higher than my trailer I haul lumber in and just about the same height as my table saw, and the Bot. Heavy duty casters make moving the workbench relatively easy. If I am using materials that are prefinished I have an old Army blanket I throw over the workbench. Russ

http://www.talkshopbot.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=30713&stc=1

knight_toolworks
10-01-2017, 11:29 PM
a vertical cart takes up a lot less room. I only have to lift one end on the table then the other. I can fit a sheet cart in my shop and get around it. if the material is heavy I have a overhead lift I setup. I have three of these.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JMP1KK8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.talkshopbot.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=30714&stc=1

Ajcoholic
10-03-2017, 06:32 PM
$1500 is not expensive. Hurting your back is a life changing event you can’t buy back for $1500.

I’m only 47 now but invested in one of the US made carts last year. Best decision I made, every kitchen we do ( this current one was almost 35 sheets of 3/4 particle core veneer) I thank myself. And we’re more productive as well.

Alan m
10-03-2017, 07:20 PM
$1500 is not expensive. Hurting your back is a life changing event you can’t buy back for $1500.

I’m only 47 now but invested in one of the US made carts last year. Best decision I made, every kitchen we do ( this current one was almost 35 sheets of 3/4 particle core veneer) I thank myself. And we’re more productive as well.
I'm considering making one.
I'm thinking about making a double sided one so that I can bring in sheets on one side , run each through cnc and then put it on the other side.
I was mocking it up this evening on a bit of mdf to see the moving parts.
it should work. hopefully.
might get a chance next week to build it

Ajcoholic
10-04-2017, 09:25 PM
I'm considering making one.
I'm thinking about making a double sided one so that I can bring in sheets on one side , run each through cnc and then put it on the other side.
I was mocking it up this evening on a bit of mdf to see the moving parts.
it should work. hopefully.
might get a chance next week to build it

One thing I’d say is not to cheap out on the casters. Ive tried many imported knock offs, even though they had a high load rating... they sucked. Now I only buy made in North American made.

Alan m
10-05-2017, 02:29 PM
One thing I’d say is not to cheap out on the casters. Ive tried many imported knock offs, even though they had a high load rating... they sucked. Now I only buy made in North American made.

I thinking to make it on a steel frame I made up like a pallet. then use my pallet truck