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Thread: Doyle Stick or Board Foot measurement stick?

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    Default Doyle Stick or Board Foot measurement stick?

    Does anyone have a dxf or whatever of the thing that looks like a yardstick with the measurements on it to be able to check the yield of a log for board feet?

    I have a guy who has a 35 inch wide poplar log 10 feet long and he wants $500.00 bucks for it. Now i wouldn't pay anything near that but i want to try to show him what he might yield out of that and what its "real" value is.

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    I've never seen a stick, but use the Doyle Scale all the time: http://tinytimbers.com/doylescale.htm
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    http://www.woodweb.com/cgi-bin/calcu...tor=log_volume

    It MIGHT be worth 500 bucks - after it's been milled into lumber and dried. In log form it would be hard to find anyone to pay anything for it unless you have a whole bunch of them.

    Here is a tree value calculator.

    http://www.woodweb.com/Resources/RSC...TreeValue.html
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    By the Doyle Scale a 10' log, 34" at the small end would produce about 563 board feet of lumber which is probably an overestimate. We normally pay 50 cents a board foot for cedar and oak and 60 cents for sassafras logs. Don't know what popular goes for but a dollar a board foot sounds high to me.
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    retail prices around here for roughsawn FAS poplar that has been dried are about $1.90 a board foot in my area.

    I doubt all the board footage from the log will be a higher grade. I wouldn't touch it unless I could come in at 50% of retail milled, and kiln dried.
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    Wholesale KD 4/4 poplar here is about $1.45 bdft. Much less for local species. Green poplar logs are free for the taking. Most is sawn in the winter due to lower moisture content.

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    I haven't bought any poplar logs lately, but I've never paid more than $.40 per board foot.

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    I wasn't looking to pay anything for the logs, I was trying to make a barter deal with the guy for some CNC services or pay a portion for the bandsaw guy to come over and cut it up.

    I asked him what he felt the logs were worth and he came back with $100-$500. which i knew was crazy. I wanted to give him a real world value for the logs thus asking the experts

    Since I asked this question earlier I made a deal with another guy who had some 20" cherry logs and he is giving me the yield from 1 log in exchange for a $25.00/hour reduction in bandaw cutting. I told him it was $100./hour. The guy only charges $75.00 so for me putting the deal together I get a trees worth of cherry wood.

    Now i'll make the guy a nice sign or plaque or something extra worth my time and go and help stack and sticker the wood.

    It would be nice to have some 35" wide poplar though......

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    The cherry sounds like a good deal
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