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    Normally I hire summer help from the local Vo-tech Schools. Normally I get the Students that need to work and need to get their on the job training section done. Depending on their level of skills I normally pay between $12.00 and
    $14.00 Dollars a hour. This year they have a new instructor. (this is a college level vo-tech.. They have Graduated high school.) He has informed them that they are not to take a on the job training Job that pays less than $45.00 per hour or they will not get a passing grade.

    Has anyone been experiencing this with hired help from vo-tech schools.
    Is this going to be the norm for wood working.

    The local Cabinet shops do not pay that for skilled workers in this area.
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    WOW! Good luck with that!

    Talk about setting kids up for failure. What point is he trying to make? Have you spoken with him and gotten this from him? Sounds really suspect. REALLY suspect!

    My instinct says you are not getting good solid information OR the instructor is not in touch with reality.

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    WOW! $14 an hour sounds like income inequality to me! Must be one of those democratic teachers. All kidding aside that's the most ridicules thing I ever heard. Bet some of his students wont be able to afford the next tuition payment. I'd have to make a phone call on that one.

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    I did talk to the school and the instructor. The instructor is from New York. Talked to some others they have the same experience from him.
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    That is a 90,000 dollar annual income if full time. I say good luck for the students. If they do find jobs starting out with that salary what the hell do they need the school for.

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    I tried to explain that the economy in this area did not warrant that wage. His argument back at me was that the students will get a bachelor degree this fall. That all had Drafting skills and cnc skills and could go on and get a masters if they wanted to, that they could go work for a factory running a cnc machine and that coal miners were getting paid that much with no degree. He also commented that cnc operators were making 80.00 an hour...
    I guess I will stick to the High School students, how many of the big guys on here are paying a cnc operator $80.00 an hour. I can not see that price. I am lucky if I get $60.00 a hour for the cnc with operator.
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    Cabinetmakers in New York do not get that kind of money. He has his head where there is likely to be very little sunshine.

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    What a CROCK

    first hints, he is an academic, from NY[sorry all you New Yorkers]
    sounds like he is trying to justify his salary.no real world experience
    like someone else said,"setting them up for failure"
    I live near Boeing's Everett plant and 30 year machinists do lots of overtime to get to 90K a year

    Carl

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    I have a brother who has been with Delta for near 30 years and gets less than that per hour as a HIGHLY SKILLED and HIGHLY TRAINED mechanic on their aircraft. He is responsible for human lives... and his position doesn't make that kind of money straight out of school! ( I think he must be by now.)

    The instructor is grossly mistaken.

    And yes: About a dollar a minute for man and machine is about what I am figuring. +/- depending ont he complexity of the job.

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    What is the name of the school? I may want to register for classes if it means that kind of a boost in income!
    Ken Zey
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