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  1. #21
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    mainly noise reduction is what I am after. I can cut for hours where I don't have much machine noise but the vacuum is noisy. I have a black box I made years ago bu I should like more vacuum but not a lot more noise. I just got a onidea cyclone thats only about 76 decibels. huge difference over my clear view.

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    I am planning to buy the black box for my 4x8 shopbot, can you please advise me if its good or not for hold down or recommend another vacuum

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtFilmgroup View Post
    I am planning to buy the black box for my 4x8 shopbot, can you please advise me if its good or not for hold down or recommend another vacuum

    thanks
    The black box works very well, i run 3 motors in mine and hold almost everything i need to except parts 2" x 3" and i use tabs with the vac on those
    Tim
    Tim Lucas Custom Woodworks
    www.TLCW.us

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    Tim what size mill do you have and what material do you cut using the black box vacuum.
    TIA
    Jr

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuniorLee View Post
    Tim what size mill do you have and what material do you cut using the black box vacuum.
    TIA
    Jr
    I have a 48x96 and cut 1/4" 1/2" 3/4" plywood and hard/soft solid wood
    Tim Lucas Custom Woodworks
    www.TLCW.us

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuniorLee View Post
    Tim what size mill do you have and what material do you cut using the black box vacuum.
    TIA
    Jr
    Jr,

    I cut 1/4", 1/2", 5/8", 3/4" plywood (at least 750 sheets a year). I use a 1/8" thick piece of MDF (skinned both sides) as a sacrificial board, that the plywood sits on, so I don't cut into my spoil board. I only have to level my board once a month or so. No tool marks whatsoever. I've got a piece of 1" MDO with T-tracks that I use to cut most hardwoods and softwood. The material is clamped to the MDO and the vacuum holds the MDO to the table. I've also used the MDO setup to etch glass and brass with a diamond drag bit.

    Since assembling the black box I've not had any problems other than an occasional motor go out. I keep two spare motors on hand. The black box is not under the table so it's easy to change motors when they go. Thousands of hours and I still love it. Only thing, like many people have said, it is loud. Some day I may move it outside and plumb it in to the table.
    Don
    Diamond Lake Custom Woodworks, LLC
    www.dlwoodworks.com
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    Don thanks for the input. I was thinking of doing the same, Re: 1" MDO amd T tracks, for the hardwood
    Jr

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    thanks for the info i am really appreciate bought the black box and works great its quitter than the vacuum cubes

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