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    Out of the blue a friend(knowing I only have Partworks 3D and can't modify files) and popped this into my inbox
    1.5X.25" BUTTON
    This was just a speed trial at 2,2,17K with a .01"machining allowance.
    Hardly lied to my database at all!
    Called a Kyocera .125" 30degree with a .002"flat a Tapered engraving bit this time.
    Called it a .02" with 30degree angle and a .001" radius tip, 50% stepover.
    Did a .001" offset outside and then did a profile ON line to full depth with the 30 degree first so side cutter and shank don't cut in Finish toolpath.
    Did an exact Diameter offset for my roughing and then profiled INSIDE and OUTSIDE offset line for clearance.
    Tomorrow will try calling 30 a .01" with a 15degree angle so program thinks it can get in further.
    27 minutes---WAY better than 13 hours
    Thanks Bob!!
    scott
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    Wow... the details are amazing.. gr8
    I left woodwork due to office work.

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    Thanks Khalid, Top left was actually 28:07, but bottom right was a silly 13 hour cut.
    Should have included that here but stuck in a "Comms" thread.
    (Pertinent #16 and down here)http://www.talkshopbot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20673
    Just trying to get the details now, still beginner so I have the advantage of not knowing what I'm NOT "supposed" to do
    Conventional settings with 1/16" Tapered Ball Nose for the 4X4" was about 90 minutes with I think it was 6.5% stepover---Didn't like the 9% cutting with the grain at all.
    scott P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottp55 View Post
    Thanks Khalid, Top left was actually 28:07, but bottom right was a silly 13 hour cut.
    Should have included that here but stuck in a "Comms" thread.
    (Pertinent #16 and down here)http://www.talkshopbot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20673
    Just trying to get the details now, still beginner so I have the advantage of not knowing what I'm NOT "supposed" to do
    Conventional settings with 1/16" Tapered Ball Nose for the 4X4" was about 90 minutes with I think it was 6.5% stepover---Didn't like the 9% cutting with the grain at all.
    For that small size you are getting too much time!!!! what are the IPM (feed)?
    I left woodwork due to office work.

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    Got the finish toolpath time down to 7:58, but had to run twice as it looked like a Chia Pet after first pass(Maple after all and coming into face grain).
    Didn't get as much difference as I thought, by calling it .015"with .001"tip and 20 degrees 1 more at a called out .01" and 10 degree and see if I have to abandon calling it a tapered engraving.
    Need to back off the 50% stepover too, but will try checking the"run second toolpath 90degrees to first" first.
    Think it's time to shop for the same bit with a .004-.005" flat instead of the .002"
    Khalid running 2,2,17K now.
    scott P.
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    Calling 30 degree various diameters and angles doesn't seem to make as much difference when calling it a tapered engraving bit as when you call it an end mill?
    Left to right/ top row
    .02"30 degree .001"flat 28 minutes (no fuzzies/good finish)

    .015" 20degree .001"flat 8 minutes(2passes because of fuzzies)

    .01" 10degree .01"flat 25minutes(no fuzzies/only slightly more detail)

    Bottom row/ calling it an endmill-significantly better detail. Need to try top file(modified) at bottom left settings for direct comparison.
    All 5 done with the same bit, just calling it out different.
    this one shows .006"flat-- will order today as my # with .002"seems to be sold out.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/30-degree-bi...item233f551e1a
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    Default Vcp 8 now:)

    Just trying to get used to VCP8 3D tools and methods, so went back to these 2 files to experiment with NO roughing toolpaths.
    So these are cut Offset toolpath with Drillman1 Kyocera's .125" 30 degree with .012 flat.
    Wanted to compare Climb vs Conventional, and also never got around to seeing whether Flatgrain or Endgrain was best for detail when we started playing with the kids blocks, so tossed that in the mix as well. Still have 100's of the suckers, and easy to swap out and CHEAP
    All as they came off machine with only a stiff Boar bristle brush and then a shot of compressed.
    MUCH faster to do in VCP8
    Just comparing "Apples to Apples" for reference.
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    And here are 2 of the original file.....Both endgrain.
    Again Offset with no Roughing toolpath. Same bit.
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    Finally finished the reference cuts, and chucked in an Onsrud .25" 30degree engraving bit with a .01" flat, and went with what I thought the best results were.
    Cut great and love NO SANDING
    So did a bunch for Dad to carry around as gifts, while I did stuff around the house.
    All Offset toolpath with no roughing pass.
    Linseed/Beeswax applied to 150F wood tomorrow.
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    Great work. I must be blind. One post on the Vectric forum must have had a link to the model but it is not there now. Where was the model purchased from?

    Andy B.
    Andy Brooks
    Oak Branch Manufacturing and Assembly, LLC
    andy@oakbranchmfg.com
    770-540-9672
    www.oakbranchmfg.com
    PRTAlpha 48x96 w/ 5 HP Spindle

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