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    Default 3D Buttons :)

    Playing with Todd Bailey's "Celtic Circle" design today with VCP8 for practice, and to have something to show Dad tomorrow.

    http://www.4m3d.com/whatsnew/tag/celtic

    One on left had roughing pass with the same .0625"downcut from Drillman1 as I used in buttonholes and to do a vector boundary. Finish pass was with Drillmans Kyocera .125 45degree engraving.
    One on right was no roughing/no vector boundary/no buttonholes/same 45 bit.
    NICE with VCP8 to manipulate a 3D toolpath IN VCP for proto'ing
    Still a 3D newbie and feeling it out. Walnut blank cut at Bloodwood speeds.
    No sanding yet, But ran twice for Fuzzies.
    MY idea of a nice 3D!! 16:03
    Thanks Todd!!!
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    Looks good. Going forward, try using a 1/32 or 1/64" ball nose end mill. It will cut cleaner & faster than a v-bit.

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    Thanks Brady,
    Got One new 1/32" still in package, but it's not a tapered, and never used 32'nd and it's the only one.
    Used the 45 for Todd's "American Flag" as preview showed a Massive difference in how the "Stars" showed up as far as crispness goes.
    Still a Newbie and this is proto'ing simply for appearance/boundary shapes/etc. and I have FOUR of these bits and cut a lot of stuff with them But barely in my comfort zone.
    Want to take a few to the "Button Society" show on Saturday and see if there's any interest and maybe use as swag for a certain collector
    Be nice to do it in one pass. Just trying to get a few DONE so I can sand/finish a couple.
    Not like there's nothing to do while it's cutting.......BARELY a clean horizontal surface in the shop
    1/16" Onsrud tapered didn't look good in preview at this size.
    Thanks again,
    scott
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    I think I read on the Vectric Forum that a few of the guys prefer an un-tapered ball nose... joe

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    I prefer non-tapered as well. It's like taking your training wheels off...

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    Need to do new VCP8 tutorials again
    Told it to offset diameter of bit outwards and was shocked when it STARTED .214" deep with the .125" 45 degree, BUT as first line was only 1/8" long and all others were only 5% step...I let it run.
    NEVER that aggressive, and as the model bottom was SUPPOSED to be at .11" down, I was surprised. Haven't dissected the file exactly to find what I did, but VERY serendipitous that it left a .006" skin on bottom that Easily scribed through with a solder pick.
    Finish sanded edge of this with the flap sander and dunked it in the molten linseed/beeswax for a bit.
    Kinda liking it
    Now just have to find out what the heck I did so I don't have to submit it to;
    "The Journal of Irreproducible Results"
    Not really sure 3D times on something like this can compare or be worth it to a button person vs. 5 to 10X less for 2.5D. Have to see.
    Need to drop model down another .01" as production model is spoilboard referenced and sanding the blank after dimensioning lost me the original .01". You can see the tiny uncarved flat on top. NO sanding except the edge profile.

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    So Dad said "How small can you go and still keep the detail?"
    Scott said "I Dunno..."

    STILL "Dunno"
    Love the Desktop
    Oh, 1pass...no roughing. material .22" Kyocera .125" 45degree engraving. Only edge was sanded.
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    How many buttons do you make in a day?
    They look very nice
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    All concept and proto's here...Todays visit we only cut the 5
    Loon took 15:03 for the 2 passes. Just putzing.
    Production runs on Northern machine...180 a day for very simplest design. NOT counting prep and finish. VCarve and it goes Way down.
    Really depends on design and size of button.
    Blanks are 4X24".
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    Scott,
    Those look great. I really like the 3D button with the ducks. Very nice detail. Nice to see some really small stuff off the desktop.

    Dave

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