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    Just curious how other guys deal with this. I'm debating whether to quote a job vcarving a logo with 17" high letters into a piece of stock that's 10' long. The letters will take up about 8' of length. They are supplying the material and it will be red cedar or cypress finished with a Japanese technique called Shou-Sugi-Ban, which is a process of charring the wood and then sealing.

    I don't know the exact monetary value of the material when I get it, but if I take the job I will be stressing out every second hoping we don't get a thunderstorm, millisecond power outage, or the stepper motor skips a tooth. It's happened twice in eight years.

    How do you handle cutting very expensive material supplied by the customer? Even if I double or triple my rate I'll be out a lot of money if anything goes wrong. Does anyone say upfront they won't be liable for "Acts of God" so to speak?
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    it is pretty much all I do and it is stressful. I do all I can not to screw it up.I put a pen in my machine and draw the text on the wood so I can see text placement. I save my tollbooths so I can use a known good one and I am not starting fresh each time. I will put the machine in preview mode to check to make sure I am running the right file. I will raise the bit above the wood and do a air cut. then I will pray to the shopbot gods and cut it.

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    I also give them a disclosure that I am not responsible for mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry_stanek View Post
    I also give them a disclosure that I am not responsible for mistakes.
    I have debated on this but not sure how it would go over. I mean if I screw up that is on me but I can't always afford to replace the material. it is the bad part of cutting other peoples material.

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    Besides an air cut do a test on a piece of scrap before you use their material. something cheap and bill it to them. It is for their benefit as well.

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    If I were using my own material I would probably order 1.5 to 2 times what I needed. Perhaps you could specify the quantity of material you require your client to provide.

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    The only time i was nervous was when i guy brought over a huge thick piece of Spanish Cedar worth 3-4 hundred bucks and he was going to chip carve some design and all he wanted me to do was to pocket out about 1/4 depth and i went slow and it took about an hour with no problems. I do feel though that if something screws up, it's your fault and responsibility and i was sweatin it till it finished.
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    3 or 4 hundred childs stuff? the worst I did was a 1500.00 of graphite it was a rush job but I had just done it in wood but still I was sweating bullets the whole time. several large wood blanks in the 1000 range I hate to do as they take so little time to cut I don't get enough for them.

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    8 blanks...5K of Alder, cut for another shop...

    go for it...you pull it off and your confidence soars...sure it's nerve racking but if you charge enough it's worth it. Client came to you for a reason...
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    Yeah at some point with the value of some material i think you have to tell them up front that "the risk is not worth the reward" and that i'm not replacing this $1500.00 worth of material just to make $100.00 and either get their agreement or just turn the work away.
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