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    Hi Guys, haven't posted for awhile. I have been using the home-built black box with two Lighthouse motors. Vacuum has been pretty good on my 4 by 8 Alpha PRS router, but the noise level is deafening. Also, the Lighthouse motors are only good for 500 to 1000 hours. I replaced both motors after about 2 years. Due to the life expectancy and the high level of noise, I have been considering using two Fein Turbo 2 shop vacs. However, I noticed that all of the newer Fein vacs have 1 1/4 hose connections. I wonder if I am going to get enough CFM to hold down. Right now I have a 4 inch PVC connection to the black box which steps down to 2 inch PVC for the four zones on my table. Seeking advise on whether I will get equal or better vacuum using two Turbo 2 vacs instead of two Lighthouse motors.

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    I'm running my 4x8 with 2 Feins. Bought my system used 5 years ago which included 2 of them using 2" plumbing. No idea how old they are. One Fein died about 2 years ago but other one is still going. Replaced dead one with another Fein. Intended to buy LightHouse replacement motor for dead one but haven't yet.

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    for some reason I could not muffle the lighthouse motors. I get the 220v amtek motors they can be muffled better. not quiet but only around 86 decibels. what I want to do is get a 220v whole house vac. the motors won't last any longer but they are around 65 decibels. they may last longer as I be they stray cooler. they will cost more to buy but then your have a very quiet enclosure. I can get one or two brush replacements out of them the brushes are about 10.00 for each motor.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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    like so cost a lot at first but would save a lot of noise. and them motors may last a bit longer as they may keep cooler. https://evacuumstore.com/p-816-elect...oaAk4yEALw_wcB

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    Thanks for the replies. Jim, do your Turbo 2s have 11/4 hose size and do the two hoses go into a manifold that converts to 2 inch pipe that attaches to the table? Could you attach a photo of the connection?

    Knight, I looked at both of the vacs that you linked. There were no specs on the Amtek motors on Amazon. I will research further. The Central Vac motor is also interesting. From what I read on the forum, I need high vac lift (99 inches of water) and high CFM. The Feins seem to meet that criteria, but it takes at least two at $350 each.

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    https://www.centralvacuumonline.com/...xoCGREQAvD_BwE
    the fiends are fine but they are 110v and not quite as powerful. I have t=used these above for several years. I want the central vac setup to save on noise and get them out of the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenkelsey View Post
    Thanks for the replies. Jim, do your Turbo 2s have 11/4 hose size and do the two hoses go into a manifold that converts to 2 inch pipe that attaches to the table? Could you attach a photo of the connection?
    No 1 1/4" used anywhere. He's glued a short piece of 2" into the Fein that fits into the PVC connection.
    Vacuum Plumbing 2.jpg Vaccum Plumbing.jpg

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    Thanks for the pictures. I learned that the Fein connection at the canister is a "proprietary" twist connection. I was wondering how to avoid going to 1 1/4 inch and then back to 2 inch PVC. Your pictures tell the story. Thanks again. It looks like the connection to the Fein is permanent (glue). Do you ever need to service the Fein? I used 4 inch PVC out of my black box which steps down to a 2 in pvc coming out of the manifold. I will need to come up with a way to come out of the two Fein ports and connect to my 4 inch PVC. Pics attached.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenkelsey View Post
    I learned that the Fein connection at the canister is a "proprietary" twist connection.
    It is.
    I was wondering how to avoid going to 1 1/4 inch and then back to 2 inch PVC. Your pictures tell the story. Thanks again.
    You wouldn't want to do that. Going larger to smaller to larger will reek havoc with air flow/turbulence, etc. Like putting a garden hose between to fire hoses [/QUOTE]
    It looks like the connection to the Fein is permanent (glue).
    yes
    Do you ever need to service the Fein?
    When the one died I pulled it out and opened it up expecting lots of junk since I had run it several years and never checked it. Totally empty.
    I used 4 inch PVC out of my black box which steps down to a 2 in pvc coming out of the manifold. I will need to come up with a way to come out of the two Fein ports and connect to my 4 inch PVC.
    PVC connectors should work. I would think a 'cone' reducer going from 4 to 2 would be better than the typical 4" to 2" step type. Not sure they make a 'cone' though. From my physics background just makes sense to me a cone/funnel would work best.
    Good luck. PS I was born/raised in Western PA - Johnstown. Been gone a VERY long time

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    I was the original owner of Jim's Shopbot. I permanently glued the PVC pipe because the original hoses were getting hot and collapsing. The other thing I have seen done was to cut the top off of the canister and glue it onto a custom built box with whatever size port you need. There may be pictures buried deep in these archives. Good Luck. Rodney.

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