Thanks John... I have made one previously. I liked it enough that it moved me to try this one. I love it, but instantly have several mods that I would like to make to my plan. it is "good" but not refined enough. Now I want to refine it a bit and see how much I can raise its elegance factor. ( It needs to be kicked up a couple notches!) And I want to convert the badge to a 3D kind of carving. I think it will make this box spectacular (and a time hog! But I only intend to run a series of about 6-10 of these, so it would be surmountable from a time standpoint! We will see what I can do about getting a 3D file for the badge and see where this leads! Thanks for the comments. They are appreciated. Monty