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[kevin]

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[kevin]

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[kevin]

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[kevin]

I included a before picture. It wasn't hard to do better. I am showing pictures during the project. It is really not that difficult. The legs were done by Stephen from Cottage Woodworkers who sent me the files. I used Cabinet parts pro for the whole unit. To design it, I used Kitchen Draw but what I would be curious about is with the ShopBot link, can the design software look like my unit? I am curious what would be more efficient. That is the biggest headache in these design software. They can't do what you do. I don't have the budget to start doing this in AutoCad. I am fortunate enough to have enough pictures so it is not a big deal for me if the design software does not look like the unit. That is about my only bug. I'd be curious to see a computer drawing and the final product. I always find out that they don't look the same. I also posted the bottom one. We can do urban. We are not a one trick pony. It is a concrete countertop, all solid wood edging on the doors with book match veneer. I try to post every so often because I think I get more from the forum than I give in. I just wish more cabinetmakers would submit more of their stuff.

[myxpykalix]

beautiful work, as usual kevin. How many hours do you have in this project? Are the columns in the FP full rounds? What did Stephen charge? Did you do the columns yourself or did he do them for you? Great job!

[loriny]

Nice work Kevin.
Ecabs can I'm sure give you a rendering like your finished product. I haven't gotten into that kind of detail and that has worked for me and my customers. Some of the stuff people post here but more so on the ecabs forum is rendered so realistically it is mind boggling. For just design and cut I sure prefer my SB link to my CPPro- Not saying it isn't good just that I prefer the link.
Lorin

[joe]

Kevin,

Beautiful work my friend. This kind of work puts money in the bank and keeps clients coming.

Look forward to seeing more work of this kind.

Joe

[Gary Campbell]

Kevin...
To answer your question, yes. For myself, the rendering abilities of eCabs are seldom used. Maybe if I spent more time practicing.

The picture below is a rendered view from eCabs done by Kerry Fullington, who is a master of the presentation. There are many more on his website: http://www.kerryfullington.com this was from the designs page.

[myxpykalix]

Gary,
When you design cabinets, if you don't use the renderings how do you know whether you are close in your final designs? I wonder how long it would take to get good enough to be able to design stuff like that? Do you design in a 2D vector environment?

[Gary Campbell]

Jack...
The majority of our work is designed by Architects or designers. They provide plan and elevation views. We just build them.

There are a good number of ShopBotters that have switched to eCabs since the introduction of the SB Link. Many of them are very profficient with the custom layout.

Timewise, a few months to be good. A number of years to be as good as Kerry.

[kevin]

Thanks for the compliments
Joe I don't know if I get rich .But I hope I'am changled

Jack It take 2 days to install .To build about few days .Whats long is the spraying .I'am going to be vague on building expernice size of shop etc etc,

I;ve encolsed rendering this rendering was done in kitchen draw .I know how to do it .But I back off I try to promise less and delever more

There where designer being sue over the drawing because the client said it looks better in the drawing colors where different etc

Gary i THINK correction I know that Architects desing furniture and or built ins is the death of cabinet makers.The reson there stuff is so stale theres no passion .When I used to work in aircraft it was all the same just different wood .This was done with a high priced team .It was boring
Designer not so bad they listen
I.ve done commerical work in my area and Montreal all I did was clean up there mistakes
I know Franlk Loyd Wright one in a million

Thats why I love sign there are no so called experts designing .Just the guy building you see the passion come through.Look at Joes work

Just my 2 cents I think cabinet making shop are going the way of the polar bear in a lot of areas .Look at most big mill shops owned by bussiness people looking for a quick buck.I know there is the execption
sorry for any typos
Kevin

[bleeth]

Kevin:
I have another word for the commercial casework we (as in me and the men in my shop) earn our living from.
BORING!
This has been a big part of the reason why I have been getting personally involved in some things like the guitar project, updating my Bot and a couple others I haven't mentioned on the forum. Fun.
As far as making the big bucks in this end-forget it!. In my area 3 shops a week are closing down and pricing, since awards are 100% bid driven with almost no consideration to ability or knowledge of the needs of the end-user profits do what my table hold down vacuum does.

[michael_schwartz]

Beautiful work. Always nice to see what other shops are producing.

[kevin]

Sorry JackI didn.t answer your queation Steven sent me the files and I turned them on my new indexer

I highly recomend Steven I can't coment on the price I paid .just say I was happy and it was reasonably

Dave I could tell stories .Thats why I do residental its more creative

Thanks Micheal for compliment

[Gary Campbell]

Kevin....
I have been fortunate to have completed a number of projects for very accomplished Architects. Luckily, I havent run into the problems that you decribe. I usually submit a shop drawing that shows my methodology, if different than drawn. I have yet to have them not be approved.

Submitting shop drawings that meet or exceed the AWI specs usually insures AIA approval.

One person corrections could be anothers "revisions" :D

[kevin]

Gary

As I said not all Architects .I.am finding my comfort zone .In my area you bid throught a gerenal contractor (MOST ARE SCUM BAGS) suppled by an Architects
What you find out is no one takes respobilite for the job .All delay are the cabinet shop fault .They have put a lot of shop out of bussiness due delay payment hold backs etc.
There need to be a standard al across North america .The industry is to divied on stanards .Example dowel vs dadoo .Its not a level playing filed .Chinnese cabinets what kind of glue are they using ? My point if nothing is done small cabinet shop will die off the same as indepent gas stations.

I'am fortune enough I have a good location so a lot of walk in traffic I can be a little picky

http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/AWI_certification.html
I read this artical very good

My advise to newbie doing comerical take lots of photo and video ,log book Get all cabinets on delevey sign .Protect your ass .Make 2 invoices one for delevey and for install