help making a giant egg.

[knight_toolworks]

a film company needs a big egg around 6' tall. a girl will have her head poking out of it. I don't think foam would hold up to a bunch of use. I am thinking of using a framework like this put something on the inside then spray the outside with that foam for walls and it smooth then go from there.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s266/knighttoolworks/posting/8998F591-orig.jpg

[B. Pile]

Thats a good plan Steve i use the same method on many film projects
you can wrap the inside with burlap mcmaster carr sells it.
The spray foam is really reasonable if done by a insul. contractor
or you can buy the insul-pacts. yourself also from Mcmaster-carr.There not
as good as the heated spray but they work, they sell them in kits as large as
2 propane size bottles. After its carved back a plaster glue can be applied
and it can be skim coated with plaster. Other products are also available such as sculpta-cote which are made to cover foam sculpures and what not,to create a durable finish (rosebrand ny. ny.)

Good luck on that EGG
Buster

[knight_toolworks]

see we think alike. I am really wondering if this can be done for what he wants to spend that's only 500.00

[SomeSailor]

I'd suggest slices of blue foam? Cheap and if cut thin would make a large egg pretty cheaply.

[knight_toolworks]

I had thought of that but a person is going to stand in side it. but I need to find out her feet may come out the bottom I don't have enough info. but even out of cheap foam it is about 400 just in foam as I would need about 16 sheets.

[bleeth]

At that price Steve I would be thinking along the lines of "Can this project go from start to finish in one day including design?" If not the first discussion is for them to raise their budget or don't waste my time.

[SomeSailor]

Yeah... $500 sounds a bit low for anything that takes more than a day including materials.

[knight_toolworks]

At that price Steve I would be thinking along the lines of "Can this project go from start to finish in one day including design?" If not the first discussion is for them to raise their budget or don't waste my time.

yes I may be able to do the work in the day but the materials wil double the price. it could be an interesting job though. didI mention the vagina in the side of the egg?

[Gary Campbell]

This may seem obvious, but did you consider renting a giant chicken to lay one for you?

[knight_toolworks]

This may seem obvious, but did you consider renting a giant chicken to lay one for you?

it would cost less since they work for scratch (G)

[cabnet636]

if we come to work at 7:am we would burn the 500.00 by 8:30 unless the balance is a verifiable tax deduction

[knight_toolworks]

if we come to work at 7:am we would burn the 500.00 by 8:30 unless the balance is a verifiable tax deduction

some of us are poor (G)

[bleeth]

But that is never your clients business. Once he gets that kind of a deal on that you never get to raise your prices so you can make a profit off him.
I wish I had a dollar for every one who told me to give them a special deal on this one and we'll make it up on the next one!!

[kevin]

Steve

I know the price is low. But who cares if you have the time and don.t mine the extra time

If you are going to do it will be like going to shopbot school and getting paid .Its sounds like you never did this its a good thing

But always a but if you screw up it will hurt in the extra time .Make shure the customer knows what he getting

Your the winner at the end of this .The 3d legs I did I didn.t get my full rate but I learned huge

[knight_toolworks]

I told him it would cost more. But I think I am on the wrong track. the egg is a lot smaller since it will only come to her mid thigh and her head will be sticking out. she will be dancing around in it and rolling around on the floor. so I am thinking it need to be made from latex of some kind of flexible foam and all I can do is make the mold or form. So any idea's on what to tell him? a single mold where the surface is sprayed or a double for a inside and outside for the material to form in between? This is better for me as mold are easier to make.

[tmerrill]

How's your liability insurance should someone get hurt?

[tgm]

Just because their budget is $500 doesn't me you can do it for that as most budgets are made by someone who knows nothing about the process involved and justs grabs a number out of thin air mostly because they '..think it sounded about right..'
You have done at some research that backs that up when the cost of the foam is $400 and you haven't touched it yet! Now you have to design, manufacture etc. for $100, no way in hell.
Work up a fair price and present it. If they go for it fine, if not move on to the next paying job. If you are going to lose money out of the gate... go fishing.

Tom in PA

[B. Pile]

Tom is right, i make a living as a const. coord. in the film industry this is
either a low budget film and they want you to work for free or they will
be willing to pay whatever it will cost. In this case it sounds like it may
be script driven.I'm curios who are you dealing with the const. coord./art director/production designer?


Buster Pile

[MogulTx]

How's your liability insurance should someone get hurt?

That's rough, Tim. Its not like he is designing an automobile for them. Where does reasonableness enter into the process? It is a costume...

[tmerrill]

Sorry, but in this day and age that is always a fair question and most don't think of it. It seemed appropriate to say when it was stated that someone would be rolling around in it.

[knight_toolworks]

Tom is right, i make a living as a const. coord. in the film industry this is
either a low budget film and they want you to work for free or they will
be willing to pay whatever it will cost. In this case it sounds like it may
be script driven.I'm curios who are you dealing with the const. coord./art director/production designer?


Buster Pile
the guy I am dealing with si about all of the above plus director. He is trying for some help but it it may be a one man show for the most part. and it needs to be kept under 1000.00 that part can be done as the egg is far smaller then planned. but how to build it is still the issue. the girl will be laying in it and he wants it to be egg shaped while laying down so it has to be stuff. one way I can think of is to just make it out of rings of plywood glue them together and fill them in with light weight Spackle and sand it all smooth. she has to have arms coming out and her head too the egg would sit on her shoulders or have straps to hold it up.

[bleeth]

You can make it in halves out of cheap foam, coat it with PVA, and then fiberglass it. After that bust out the foam and glass the two halves together.

[Brady Watson]

Make a cheap frame out of metal wire & paper-machete it. Sounds funny, but...you won't find a cheaper, lighter or easier method.

-B

[SomeSailor]

Does it have to be a complete egg? Can it be like a 2/3rds model? That would cut some cost of materials as well. Paper mache would be the cheapest for sure.

[bleeth]

Wait a minute: Girl in egg? Somebody doing a remake of "To Kill a Mockingbird?"

Brady: I don't think paper mache will hold up to laying down in it unless it were awfully thick (and heavy).