Furniture or cabinet company

[genek]

I am looking for a furniture or cabinet company that has a cnc dublicAting lathe or a pattern lathe.

The company that used to make my tasting spoon blanks has gone out of business and did not inform me. They should have at least sent me the pattern that i paid to have made. But anyway. I need a company that can turn these. The other company used the 2.5 x2.5 scrap that they had. I used to order 100 at a time which gave me 200 finished ones.
These i sale to a catalog company. I have attached a picture of a finished one. WOULD PREFER SOMEONE THAT IN ON HERE AND IN THE U.S. I MARKET MY PRODUCT AS U.S. MADE

[dan_nelson]

Shouldnt have to do that on a lathe, looks pretty easy to do we are interested. nelsonwoodcrafters@yahoo.com.

[myxpykalix]

That looks pretty simple and can be duplicated fairly easily. You may want someone close to you, however i could do this by redrawing you a new part and cutting. I am in Central Virginia. myxpykalix@hotmail.com

[genek]

These start out as square blocks turned, and sanded smooth. Then when they get to my shop i split them in half to get two tasting spoons then dip out the spoon. The wood starts out as 2.5x2.5x16 i have been paying 5.00 per.. NOT SURE OF THE SQUIRE END.. I KNOW THE OUTSIDE OF THE LARGE SOON ENDS UP AS 2 INCHES.

[fredtoo]

Your first post didn't show the rounded backside.....

[genek]

I do not have an actual blank left in the shop.. I had already used all of them up before i found out they had gone out of business. The squire IS ACCORDING TO MY CLAMPING SYSTEM FOR THE SHOP BOT IS 2.35 X 2.35 X 14.25 THAT IS THE BLANK SIZE

[Ajcoholic]

Gene,
I have a large, single point hydraulic copy lathe (Urpematic, made in Spain). It is not cnc, but uses either a flat stock pattern or a turning to copy. I use it to turn my own ballusters & spindles for stairs, table legs, etc.

Very good quality of cut as there is a large guide bearing that runs with the carriage that supports the stock. It is fast as well. I have done custom turnings for others since I purchased it 2 yrs ago.

If you cannot find anyone in the US I'd be interested - depending upon the price you need to pay, and if I can source the thicker stock material (what are you using?) easily, etc.

Can you say what you are paying for them per piece? Oops I see you said $5. Is that for material AND machining? If so, thats pretty tight. At least 2 to 3 bucks per blank in a wood like hard maple, which leaves less than 3 minutes of labour. Possible but not likely...

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0465.jpg (pic is before I had her set up and cleaned up. I bought this used when I was setting up my new shop.)

AJC

[Ajcoholic]

Shouldnt have to do that on a lathe, looks pretty easy to do we are interested. nelsonwoodcrafters@yahoo.com.

No faster way than on a lathe. I bet it would take longer for me to load a blank in than for my lathe to cut it. :)

SOme things are done much faster on specialty equipment. I'd think trying to do this on an indexer on a 3 axis cnc would be way to slow to make any $$.

Just my opinion though! :)

AJC

[genek]

Price each i was paying 4.00 plus shipping.. They were turned and sanded only. I normally order 100 blanks which when i split the blank i had two .. I cut the ends off after i dipped out the bowl. With shipping and all i ended up paying about 5.00 per blank... This is cherry. I have a duplicating lathe but it is hand feed and hand turn the movement. Before i started saling to a catalog company i could turn my own... But with the orders they place and other orders i could not keep up.. So i out sourced it to a furniture company in n.c. Had i know they were going out of business i would have bought their machine and done it in house. By the way.. Where did you find that one.
Would love to have one like that.

[Ajcoholic]

Got it from a Canadian turning company that had two and closed up. Paid $5000 (along with a small rotophase converter, a large band saw and an old Rockwell 14" radial arm saw) which I thought was a good deal, considering a new one is close to $30K.

$4 before shipping in Cherry is too low for me. Even at my wholesale cost, the cherry blank is close to $4! I dont know about the USA but here 10/4 cherry sells for at least $6/fbm.

Good luck in your search...

AJC

[genek]

I get fas for 4.00 bft 8/4 the company that turned them used up waste they had

[genek]

Mr. Coholic where do you live i buy wood from oh, tenn, va, w.va and ky and most are with IN a few cents of each other...

[Ajcoholic]

Mr. Coholic where do you live i buy wood from oh, tenn, va, w.va and ky and most are with IN a few cents of each other...

Waaaaaaay up North :)

I live in Timmins, which is a city of about 50,000 people in North-Eastern Ontario, Canada.

It is about 500 miles driving North of Toronto - which is the largest city in the province of Ontario (at about 3 million).

Most of the lumber wholesalers I deal with are based in Southern Ontario.

Since the cherry I buy comes from the USA, I imagine my cost will be higher than someone living in the US... just as my cost on wood harvested here (maple, white ash, white pine) is probably less.

AJC

PS Mr Coholic is my father... I go by Andrew, or Andy :)

[michael_schwartz]

I pay about $4-5 per board foot for 4/4 Pennsylvania cherry. The mill I buy from generally has pricing between retail, and wholesale but they let you pick.

The local material they log, and mill especially maple is priced pretty well. I can fill up my pickup for under a grand. The stuff they purchase from distributers is closer to what you would pay at a retailer.

[genek]

Just brought up to call men and women by their last name unless i know them very well. Do not mean and harm.

[Ajcoholic]

Just brought up to call men and women by their last name unless i know them very well. Do not mean and harm.

I was just trying to be friendly.. and funny... no worries!

AJC :)

[genek]

Here in ky we are over run with cherry.. That is why i get fas (furniture grade for 4.00 bf and no 1 common for for 2.70 and no 2 common for 1.40 per bf.. I can get more than i can hall on my siverado for under 600.00
maple here is 2.90 bf fas no 1 common is 1.85 no 2 common 1.15

[bruce_taylor]

I was quoted $5.53 bft from my lumber dealer here in Florida. This would be a good deal for a door or mill work company with excess shorts they need to do something with. It may be tough to actually buy the lumber just to do this project. I have found with Raised panel doors that if it is a small job I can't buy the lumber and finish it and have a good margin, so I let a door company that specializes in doors make the small orders and make a modest mark-up on the order. If it is a large order then I can make decent money on it and I'll make them myself. I sure someone out there will make out ok with this setup especially if they already have a bunch of excess lumber they need to unload.
Good luck!!

[genek]

Guys.. I know that if i do not find someone who can use up scrap that they have that the price will go up... When i set this up a few years ago i left wiggle room for things. If you can turn them and want to give me a price...
The wood is actually 15/16 of a board foot but would call it one board foot. Does not have to be fas i am trying to keep it in the shop bot community and in the u.s.

[bruce_taylor]

I really appreciate you putting this out to the forum members and keeping the work in the US with all that is manufactured over the pond. It is still early and I hope someone close to you will appreciate the opportunity to provide the parts you need.

[genek]

Thanks bruce most are giving up... Would like to see them bid or give a quote.. I knew that at some point in time prices would change. I left room and i can add more to the wholesale price if it comes to that.
I want work for our people. No none of us can compete with overseas prices..but my customer base pays more for products made in the u.s. And i have to certify that the products are. Just want someone here on shop bot forum to bid if i can live with it i will place the order.

[genek]

Bruce i make things for berea college here in ky... They are one of the worlds largest suppliers of hand made product. I am doing an order for them right now for over 5,000 pieces this is a normally every six months order from them. I am currently bidding another job with them... That will be over 10,000 pieces... They make the same tasting spoon that i do... I will with in the next year get the order to start making theirs.. My 100 every six months will turn into an order for 500 every month... I was in the process of bidding for their spoons this week. When i found out my supplier went under. I normally sale 100 every three months through a catalog company. And i just picked up another catalog company in march.
All my company does is kitchen items, dogs and military ornaments. And i stay swamped. When an item gets to moving faster than i can produce it i farm it out.. I have started doing a heck of a lot more since i quit being afraid of the cnc.. I have added over 15 new items and i am having trouble keeping wood in stock to make the products. I am having to make a run to the lumber mill to pick up rough lumber each week.
I think the economy is picking up also.. Orders are climbing faster than they have in several years.

[bleeth]

Eugene:

The low cost you were getting charged for the blanks may be indicative of why the company went under!!
It seems to me you can produce the entire spoon yourself using a "flip ops" strategy and need neither a lathe nor an indexer. You will, of course need to rethink your jig and cutting strategy. If instead of starting with heavier lumber and then splitting it you could start with a thinner board and nest out a bunch of spoons in one board.

[mark_stief]

Eugene
I sent you a P.M. if you are still looking for someone to make your blanks