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khalid
05-22-2014, 03:41 AM
Hi All,
Plunged into new adventure for fabrication of CNC Portable Milling/Boring machine from readily available material. I am working in a reputable petrochemical industry. Presently, we have to make a 150 x 80x 90mm deep tappered slots (15 degree draft angle) for repair of a crack on a thick pressure vessel. The existing portable machine did good job on a mockup but due to increase in depth and lot of vibration issues the mock-up job completed in 90Hrs. Thats a big downtime for a plant.
This is the time to make a more rigid and efficient CNC machine that may be portable and mounted on a circular shell at any orientation http://www.cnczone.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif.. The CNC will be added benefit.
Here are some pictures of the build. The Cross slides working area is 200mm and the Z-axes can travel 150mm. I used salvaged Linear rails and ball screws for this. The machine base is not casted but we have used 30mm Carbon Steel plate http://www.cnczone.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif
We hope that by implementation of this machine we will drastically reduce the time from 90Hrs to 12Hrs or less.

The target completion date is 15days. Designing by FEA till actual mockup test---15 Days.....

t_vandemark
05-22-2014, 04:29 AM
Hey Khalid, I am a maintenance coordanator for Canadian Natural Resources Ltd. a large oil company in Canada. I work at their Horizon Oilsands facility in northern Alberta. I'm just curious why you guys are machining these cracks instead of grinding them? Over here we chase cracks with a grinder then do a mag particle test to confirm that we got it all and then fill it back up the weld. We do a ton of portable machining on site but never on vessels to chase cracks, is this a standard procedure over there?

khalid
05-22-2014, 05:36 AM
Hey Khalid, I am a maintenance coordanator for Canadian Natural Resources Ltd. a large oil company in Canada. I work at their Horizon Oilsands facility in northern Alberta. I'm just curious why you guys are machining these cracks instead of grinding them? Over here we chase cracks with a grinder then do a mag particle test to confirm that we got it all and then fill it back up the weld. We do a ton of portable machining on site but never on vessels to chase cracks, is this a standard procedure over there?

Thru Cracks needs to be arrested by drilling holes at the ends then removal of the crack itself by machining/gouging etc. Then joint preparation and rewelding considering all NDT/PWHT requirements... In our case, The crack start from the inner diameter and follow the path toward Outside diameter. Now, if it was superficial crack started from outside then we can use NDT (UT/MT/PT techniques) and grind the crack till it vanishes. However, tell me if you have 110mm thick wall pressure vesse have thru crack what will you do? how long it would take to remove the Thru crack by grinding?

khalid
05-22-2014, 05:45 AM
The controler and the machine... Using 400watt delta servo drives...

johnh
05-22-2014, 06:02 AM
Very nice work, but over my monkee-like head.

Does this mini-cnc machine bolt to the side of a boiler tank and machine away metal from a cracked area so it can be filled with weld?

Will it utilize a router of sort? spindle of sort? and a metal milling bit?

khalid
05-22-2014, 06:18 AM
Very nice work, but over my monkee-like head.

Does this mini-cnc machine bolt to the side of a boiler tank and machine away metal from a cracked area so it can be filled with weld?



Will it utilize a router of sort? spindle of sort? and a metal milling bit?

Actually A plate shall be tack welded on the vessel over which this machine will be mounted. The machine will remove the crack by machining and prepare a special Groove for weld fill up. I will show you some mock-up testing what we have did on steel plate 110mm thick.
Tack welding on stress relieved vessel is also tricky so we shall do all NDT and will perform PWHT of complete circumferential band. Later on detailed NDT (UT/TOFD/MT etc) shall be carried out to check any other cracks developed due to this repair.


We have Hydraulic driven spindle. The maximum speed is 300RPM and can handle upto 19mm diameter end mill at sufficient torque.

khalid
05-22-2014, 06:56 AM
Khalid, that machine looks great. I can't wait to hear how it performs. And yes, for a through crack of that depth we would just end up using a gouger. I have never seen them machined before. I would be interested to see some pics of the machine in action, that is if you are allowed to take pics in the plant. You are one creative individual, can't wait to see what you come up with next.:)

Gouging is one of the low-cost readily available , less time consuming option,but, we are avoiding gouging in this special case due to metallurgy and nature of cracks . This is due to unnecessary high heat input during gouging operation that may cause propagation or generation of new cracks in adjascent material or HAZ portions of the circumferential weld..

I shall show you pictures in another suitable forum/media i.e. email as this is not the part of this thread.

khalid
05-22-2014, 09:20 AM
The machine is complete and the controller is also complete. We will use UC100 from cncdrive to control this unit using USB port of laptop http://www.cnczone.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif
Tomorrow we will calibrate and test the machine. On Saturday we shall do a mockup testing an 110mm thick plate.
This machine cost us with all electronics and hardware : US $4000/-
If we have to purchase this machine from reputable manufacturer we would have to pay around US $30,000/-

chiloquinruss
05-22-2014, 11:18 AM
You know, just looking at your pictures, it appears to me you've done this type of stuff before! :D Very well done. Russ

khalid
05-22-2014, 11:48 AM
You know, just looking at your pictures, it appears to me you've done this type of stuff before! :D Very well done. Russ
A man who do know programming, electronics, mechanical having ability to synchronize all three can do anything in this world. Here is the picture of mock up testing of one of expensive commercial manual portable milling machine, that took 90 Hr for one slot ... This make me design customized machine that having working envelop of 200mm x 200mm x 140mm. Lets see how much time it will take to machine 140mm x 70mm x 90mm(deep) slot with tappered angle 15 degree in 110mm thick Low Alloy steel. I guess not more than 10 Hrs...

Thanks:D

gene
05-22-2014, 01:47 PM
Be sure to make a welder attachment so when it gets done machining the tank it can weld the area that needs repaired

khalid
05-23-2014, 01:16 AM
Be sure to make a welder attachment so when it gets done machining the tank it can weld the area that needs repaired
Not at All.. we can't take:D risk :).

ssflyer
05-23-2014, 01:29 AM
Khalid,

A very few miles from me are several geothermal wells - wonder if they'd be interested in something like this? (Power companies here have lots of $$) :D

khalid
05-23-2014, 02:28 AM
Khalid,

A very few miles from me are several geothermal wells - wonder if they'd be interested in something like this? (Power companies here have lots of $$) :D

i don't think so they would show any interest at all.. Those rich guys acquire services from expert agenciew having all tools tackles...:D:)

machine is being tested/calibrated today. We will start machining one of the cavity tomorrow.

khaos
05-23-2014, 09:18 AM
20 cm :eek: is a super deep cut in steel. Show pictures when done.

khalid
05-24-2014, 04:51 AM
10cm only and not 20cm deep...
All calibrations done.. Now we are going to test the machine ;) Lets cross the fingers..

mikeacg
05-24-2014, 08:07 AM
As always, very impressive stuff Khalid! I have learned a lot from you over the years. Thank you!

I'm going to be revisiting the embroidery concept very soon...

Mike

khalid
05-24-2014, 10:36 AM
Thanks Michael,
I forget the embroidery stuff;)... Sometime when i have time i shall do all embroidery stuff with Arduino itself...

Here are few picture of 2" x 2" x 20mm deep slot we did with this machine. We have mounted hydraulic spindle 300RPM maximum used 4 flute 19mm end mill. Job took 35Minutes...
The spindle had play in the bearing which caused some marks on the work piece walls but those are nothing ...However we are satisfied with the result.. We shall do mockup testing and evaluate the timings...
Video of the job to come..

khalid
05-24-2014, 11:35 AM
Here is a brief video:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHkk9ji5Tuw&feature=youtu.be

myxpykalix
05-24-2014, 02:52 PM
khalid...which one are you in the video?? I like your "McGyver" spirit...:eek:

khalid
05-24-2014, 09:30 PM
As i was making video with mobile so you can see me in reflection of Laptop screen at the end of video.:rolleyes:

khalid
05-24-2014, 09:42 PM
Here is the actually how the machine will install..some 6mm deep test.. complete depth testing shall be carried out on Monday.

t_vandemark
05-24-2014, 10:16 PM
Khalid, it looks great. Are you at all worried about the cutting fluid getting into the electronics?

khalid
05-24-2014, 11:29 PM
Khalid, it looks great. Are you at all worried about the cutting fluid getting into the electronics?
We are using compressed air and no cutting fluid:)

khalid
05-25-2014, 12:47 AM
I have 13 years of mechanical maintenance (stationery equipment) experience in fertilizer plant. This year we have had hotspots in our primary reformer and due to innovative technique all were rectified on-line without any downtime.
Innovation,hardworking,commitment,leadership and good management always pays off...I am the ever youngest Section Head at my fertilizer plant.

Tomorrow we shall give presentation and demo of this machine to our GM.

scottp55
05-25-2014, 07:45 AM
Congratulations Khalid, Hope all goes well at demo.

gene
05-25-2014, 09:27 PM
So you do the repairs without shutting down the plant ?

khalid
05-26-2014, 12:00 AM
So you do the repairs without shutting down the plant ?
Yes and No.. Depends upon the situation and risks... For example, leakages can be arrested using box-up clamps, peening welding techniques etc. The hotspots on the walls and roof of induced draft furnace can be taken care online without shutting down the plant.
The repair of critical service cracks like we are talking in this thread we have to shutdown the plant. But if the same cracks appears on coolig water pipings/natural gas lines/steam and other utilities line we do special SOC's/JSA's and do online repair. We did arrested High Pressure Heat exchangers leakages from covers/flanges online and we try to keep the plant in running without compromising on safety. Safety and Quality of the job is 1st priority. At our plants production is our second priority.

khalid
05-26-2014, 10:10 AM
Congratulations Khalid, Hope all goes well at demo.
Thanks,
Here in the picture the 65mm deep slot took 6Hrs of time. Previously manual machining with big steps at 30mm took almost 30Hrs of time and the finish was too much pathetic.. The machine was stopped to lengthen the tool with new tool adapter. As it has rough machining with endmill at 1.5mm stepover so we fine not that good finish at the walls but its okay.. We can run another finish machining using ballnose but we no need to....
The cavity walls are at 15degree upto 70mm depth and the remaining 20mm depth is at 37.5degree.Job in progress.

khalid
05-28-2014, 10:08 AM
Here is the rough cut at full depth by the machine. 10 degree(in the above posted wrongly written 15 degree) for 70mm and the remaining is 37.5 degree upto next 20mm. Total depth is 90mm. The complete machining took place with one 16mm End Mill..No sharpening/replacement of the tool. The tool was not blunt..No coolant at all. Job took 10Hrs as expected...

khaos
05-28-2014, 01:12 PM
Looks very good.