From the ashes

[dmidkiff]

Here are some pics of the new shop in progress. It is going slow but that's fine with me. Decided on 40' X 60' X 12' metal with wood floor. It may be all ready for tin by next weekend, if the weather holds.

[harryball]

Very nice. Have you researched any fire suppression devices? I think I'd have to put several of those fire extinguishers that trigger automatically under the floor and leave a way to inspect them.

Another tip, take pictures that include references for anything that will be wrapped up. I.e. Electrical wiring in walls or under floors. Very handy to have if you ever have a problem or just want to know where to cut a hole (or not cut one) in the future.

/RB

[scottp55]

Congrats on the new building Dave!!
BUT, Very nervous as I'm not seeing any corner bracing :(
Is it not installed yet?
We did a building with a new foreman a LONG time ago and he was in such a rush to impress the president of the company that he did 4 bays(100') without installing the sag rods and corner bracing:eek:
We warned him as we could feel the steel moving, but he blew us off and then Just as the president showed up he landed a lift of roof panels on the gable end and we had to ride the steel down:(
Eave height 0". Foreman Fired. Injuries 1 site truck, 0 human, BUT only pure luck!
It looked like your building just before it pancaked.

ANY way to beef it up? Sheets alone won't give it to you. I would definitely talk to your steel guy.
SORRY:(
scott

[curtiss]

Seems it should have some diagonal bracing in a number of locations, unless the wind does not blow very hard in Texas.

[kubotaman]

Dave you will be more than happy with the new building. But a few have commented on cross bracing. I own a airplane hanger with similar construction. If at all possible I will forward a picture of the cross bracing that is required here for wind shear. Maybe it will help you. If you are insulating you should insulate prior to applying the metal panels. They make a insulating blanket just for your situation. Just a suggestion.

[dmidkiff]

Thanks guys for the suggestions. I have thought that I would have portable extinguishers at several locations inside and out. I have a neighbor that works for a fire extinguisher place and will talk with him about suppression system. As for the corner bracing, I plan on having some but wanted to have all the wall purlins with door and window openings framed in first. This is my first metal building and am struggling with "whats next" all the time. Am planning on insulation too. Would love to see pics of your building to see cross bracing. It might help with some other things I am missing.

[mikeacg]

I'm green with envy for a shop that big - but it wouldn't fit on my property! Good to see you making progress!

Mike

[Brady Watson]

Glad to see this Dave. Thanks for posting it up. You've got a lot of work ahead of you...but it's so much easier when it's a labor of love.

-B

[kubotaman]

Dave I took some pictures of my hanger that you may want to look at. Hopefully they will help you. Let me know. The names should be self explanatory.

[kubotaman]

Dave one more!

[scottp55]

Dave, Note Daryl's Cable set-up, especially on walls. Perhaps that would be easiest method for you to adapt to yours(if it was solid steel it would be what I called sag rod). Easiest way to plumb up the building too.
Congratulations again!
scott
p.s. NICE building Daryl! When you mentioned "Hangar" I pictured one of a long row of hangers used by small local airports for "Cub" sized planes. Judging by the RV, it's not a "Cub"!!
What's eave height? 21'? Rib roof or standing seam?

[kubotaman]

Scott the hanger has the "locking" seam roof. No screws visible since it rains here most of the time. It is the best to eliminate any leaks. In Lake Tahoe, we lived close by, a person would be a fool to use the type that had the screws exposed! The ice in winter would tear the fasteners out. My hanger is 21 feet high in the center. I bought it during the recession, still going on here, for less that I could possibly build it for. The land would have cost me more!

[pappybaynes]

Thanks guys for the suggestions. I have thought that I would have portable extinguishers at several locations inside and out. I have a neighbor that works for a fire extinguisher place and will talk with him about suppression system. As for the corner bracing, I plan on having some but wanted to have all the wall purlins with door and window openings framed in first. This is my first metal building and am struggling with "whats next" all the time. Am planning on insulation too. Would love to see pics of your building to see cross bracing. It might help with some other things I am missing.
Dave, if you put in a suppression system you will want a clean agent system...won't damage the machinery or computers...fire extinguishers are great for a small fire but realistically are there to help one egress the building...obviously local authority has the final say as what you MUST put in..
Dick

[dmidkiff]

Got some wall purlins up yesterday. Will post progress pics as we go. progress will slow as we get to framing doors and windows and cross bracing.
Thanks for the pics Daryl. I will weld the cross braces in place as the whole building is welded. So far only purchased the roof trusses from fabricator. Dick, we are rural and have no inspectors except for the tax man.
Mike we are lucky to have a few acres. When we built the first shop it was 30X40 and soon was way too small. I hope this one doesn't get too small. I plan on less equipment.

[kubotaman]

Dave sounds like the perfect place to live, not having the tax man around. Here they come around once a year!!!! Your welcome. Hope the pics help.

[dmidkiff]

Thanks Daryl, Your pics did help. We have almost all purlins in place and just about ready to install tin. Picked up all the wall tin yesterday. Here are some more progress pics. The north wall is still open so we can access inside after it is closed in.

[harryball]

Thanks Daryl, Your pics did help. We have almost all purlins in place and just about ready to install tin. Picked up all the wall tin yesterday. Here are some more progress pics. The north wall is still open so we can access inside after it is closed in.

Since envy is a sin I'll just say Nice! :D

Looks much more stable with the purlins and bracing in place. I think you'll love it when you get it finished up and move in... well OK, a shop is never "finished" and you're always making changes so let's say you'll love it when you start using it. :)

BTW, what was wrong with that nice shop in the background already... with the tin roof? :cool:

[dmidkiff]

One is a hay barn and the other is a cow barn. One is more fragrant than the other but both would affect my ability to breath. I did consider using one in 2002 but decided that the smell would never leave. There is also a lot of work needed to convert to a shop.

[myxpykalix]

Well i guess all you need to worry about now, is which direction the wind is blowing, right?:eek::D:rolleyes:

[dmidkiff]

Yes Jack, it sometimes smells when the wind is from the north. Never smelled inside old shop, just on trip from house to shop and back. Glad to see you are back. Hope you are feeling better.