View Full Version : New control computer, win 10, 2021
As my current control tower (8 yr old Asus, i5) becomes more unreliable, I'm looking for recommendations.
I've bought 2 new machines in the last 1-5 months, and boy, things damn near don't function at all anymore. The process of simply booting can be a challenge, even for my new $2,300 design machine. Seems the more I spend, the worse they are.
In a world where we're 1 step away from being forced into a cloud- based system, how in the heck are we supposed to find something that will get along with the aging SB-3 and all it's fussy-ness?
Absolutely petrified about changing my control computer.
Is there a decent, go-to machine that is reasonably well suited to running a Shopbot?
Recommendations, anyone?
Jeff
coryatjohn
03-24-2021, 08:59 PM
When my original controller computer started to die, I went with a "refurbished" Dell tiny computer without a fan and a solid state drive. Bought it on ebay for $150 all in, including W7 and plenty of RAM. I hooked it up once to the internet just to get updates, then that was it. So far, it's about a year or so down the road and it works perfectly.
fredtoo
03-25-2021, 09:00 AM
Started with a refurb 11-12 years ago and am now on my third. The latest, November of last year, is a Dell Optiplex 3020 i5 8gb ram purchased from Amazon for $156. And I've always had my wired network connection active to my in-house NAS with no problems.
bill_l
03-25-2021, 09:21 AM
I just installed the one in the link. I needed to figure out how to force Win 10 to install the drivers for the Bot but once accomplished everything has been working great. It's remarkably small yet very capable. Using a wireless keyboard which functions flawlessly as a remote pendant for manually moving the Bot when needed.
https://www.amazon.com/Windows-i5-5257u-Desktop-Computer-Display/dp/B08P5DLZ37/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=QFcCr&pf_rd_p=49ff6d7e-521c-4ccb-9f0a-35346bfc72eb&pf_rd_r=JGPT4SD7A2X50ECN3F67&pd_rd_r=b4a16baa-ee9b-4263-aad0-cd4ca44376a0&pd_rd_wg=Vo3Ni&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_d&th=1
Purchased an Asus all-in-one PC with Windows 7. Been running without a single problem for about 5 years now. Never connected to my network (internet). Disabled most functions that will make a computer slower and less reliable. Cleaned up the registry. Very high speed connection with the control box over a 10' USB cable. Capable of pushing my 2009 PRS/Alpha with ATC at 15IPS (jog speed, not cut speed) without an issue. Great little computer.
I think with all the connectivity issues with newer versions of Windows, many problems crop up and it's tough to work around them.
Thanks for all the responses. Checking things out.
needed to figure out how to force Win 10 to install the drivers for the Bot
Exactly. That's the kind of asinine garbage I'm talking about. I'll be running the opposite direction from that one. (though I appreciate your good intentions)
Had to leave a message with Shopbot sales, but website indicates they are now offering a control computer that is clean-swept and ready to run the SB trouble free. Interesting.
Just don't have the patience and time of day to play with computers until everybody decides to get along. Despite all the warnings and advice on cleaning/scouring, even my existing computer(never saw internet) would still generate hiccups and get nervous randomly about no updates. Just can't seem to dig deep enough to eradicate the trash, even from that vintage machine.
Tons of work to do, and burning thousands on malfunctioning computers has me completely hacked off at this point.
I'll post once SB responds, but still open to further suggestions.
Jeff
coryatjohn
03-25-2021, 02:59 PM
>> ...but still open to further suggestions.
Give up on W10 and go back to W7.
Give up on W10 and go back to W7.
Good point! I'll modify my search and see what I can find.
Meanwhile, Tom at SB just called back. Machines are changing regularly, based on availability, etc. They're quoting a Dell Vostro 3400 series completely scoured/loaded/ready to run my machine for ~ $600 (subject to change based on all the above).
Sure, you can do better, but my shop rate factored against all the horsing around, this plug and play solution is possibly the smartest way to go. For me.
Jeff
coryatjohn
03-25-2021, 05:09 PM
For $600, sounds like a good solution.
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