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kubotaman
08-02-2009, 12:05 AM
How does one go about knowing how to correct my Alpha from cutting too deep? It seems that it is approximately 1/32" too deep. Also when cutting a circle it is too small. What or how do I correct my problem?
woodworx
08-02-2009, 12:24 AM
your unit values might be off. correct them if necessary.
erik_f
08-02-2009, 06:17 AM
I once was using a down spiral bit that measured out at .23" and seemed to push the router up slightly because of its down spiral nature. I changed to straight flute that measured out at .25". My depth problem was solved and my dado's fit perfectly after that.
I measure every bits' cutting diameter with digital calipers (.0005 accuracy) to get the actual cutting diameter, not the advertised cutting diameter. I then make sure that my tool databases have this actual cutting diameter and I've not had any problems with fitting joints.
When I first started using my PRS Alpha, I used the bit manufacturers numbers as the cutting diameters. I couldn't get joints to fit properly and my pocket cuts were not what I had specified.
The difference between an advertised .25" end-mill and an actual cutting diameter of .238" will make the difference in nice fitting joints and pockets being the correct size. It just takes a second to get the actual cutting diameter. I also check cutting diameters again after I get bits back from the sharpener. This burned me a couple of times.
All this applies to using bits in a hand-held router and a router table as well.
Don
www.diamondlakewoodworks.com (http://www.diamondlakewoodworks.com)
shoeshine
08-02-2009, 02:36 PM
It would also help to mic your Zzero plate. I found that my plate was actually .119 though it was nominally 1/4in aluminum. I then corrected the settings in the Zzero routine and got much better depth control.
Are the Shopbot machines not all built the same? How then could the unit values be different?
I would take my Z plate to a machine shop and have it surfaced so it is super flat and accurate.
RIB
thewoodcrafter
08-02-2009, 03:49 PM
Richard,
All ShopBots are not made the same.
You have PRT and PRS, with and without geared steppers.
The unit values will be different.
I think machining your z-zero plate is a little over kill.
Just mic it.
It is already flat enough.
I agree with Roger, the z-zero plate is already flat enough. The secret is to z-zero at the same spot on the plate every time.
I simply mic'd the z-zero plate in one spot, about a half inch square (outlined in red) and always zero to that spot. The measurement is entered into my_variables.sbp file and things are good to go. This way I know there is repeatable consistency in the z-zero process.
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