View Full Version : CARB COMPLIENCY
woodworx
09-03-2009, 11:53 AM
Most suppliers have to get rid of material that doesn't meet carb complience by the end of this month. Call around to different yards to see what they have available. Most will take more than 50% off what they were originally selling for.
myxpykalix
09-03-2009, 12:49 PM
carb compliency??
wberminio
09-03-2009, 01:01 PM
Carb Complacency??
Is this a California thing?
harryball
09-03-2009, 01:21 PM
Carbon Emissions
As I understand it, limits have been imposed on the amount of CO2 emissions during materials manuafacturing.
I have no idea when the deadline is/was.
I had no idea existing materials that were non-compliant had to be liquidated by a certain date. That would seem strange since the material is already produced and will remain in existence even if sold. Perhaps a marketing thing or some ratio of "green" to normal items sold that give retailers a tax advantage/credit or something.
Anyway... I'll check it out too.
/RB
shoeshine
09-03-2009, 02:15 PM
It's the Adkins program for lumberyards :-)
khaos
09-03-2009, 02:36 PM
Its really no wonder CA has $$ issues ... With all the other issues biz has to deal with they pull some krap like this. Sorry guys, my heart really bleeds for the conditions you are subjected to out there. I wonder if NY, MA, and other states are due to follow suite. Will you even be able to get foam/PVC type materials anymore? And batteries, jeez, will you be able to by those? And if you can will mere mortals be able to afford them?
thewoodcrafter
09-03-2009, 04:17 PM
CARB
California Air Resources Board
Run by a group of do-gooder, idealistic, tree hugging, green fools. They are trying to see if they can run all manufacturing jobs out of the state of California. Somehow they think Calfornia is going to stop global warming all by ourselves.
wberminio
09-03-2009, 04:20 PM
I guess some people have way too much time on their
hands.
They should all get a Shopbot and do something really productive!
joe_dusel
09-03-2009, 08:53 PM
Oye... The new CARB rules are a regulation concerning the amount of formaldehyde that a panel product can emit. So, some of you think this is a bad thing? I guess you don't remember the FEMA trailer debacle no-doubt created by folks who think that government should stay out of their way and let them sell whatever toxic stuff they like. I'm assuming some of the commenters to the original post also have no problem with the Chinese drywall that is causing major problems with metal corrosion wherever it was used. And, I suppose some of you folks want to keep the government out of watching how much melamine gets put into out food supply either?
I am personally happy for my own health that there is less formaldehyde in our panel products - and my customers are also happy about it since it's no longer a special order to get safer materials.
Joe
khaos
09-03-2009, 10:43 PM
Formaldehyde IS mentioned in one of their documents. According to that document formaldehyde is produced by nearly everything. It was such a sweeping coverage that it made it seem impossible to avoid it and to take the level of danger seriously. I dont propose to say that its not harmful at all. Just that it seems to be delivered in an alarmist fashon that makes me question motive.
Formaldehyde is NOT the main focus of CARB it is simply a small portion of the regime's mission.
As an aside: A woman doing her nails puts out more Formaldehyde than a sheet of plywood.
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BTW: From the CARB website: http://www.arb.ca.gov/html/mission.htm
The Major Goals of the Board (CARB) are to:
•Provide Safe, Clean Air to All Californians
•Protect the Public from Exposure to Toxic Air Contaminants
•Reduce California's emission of greenhouse gases
•Provide Leadership in Implementing and Enforcing Air Pollution Control Rules and Regulations
•Provide Innovative Approaches for Complying with Air Pollution Rules and Regulations
•Base Decisions on Best Possible Scientific and Economic Information
•Provide Quality Customer Service to All ARB Clients
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I simply do NOT buy into this whole global warming hoax. As it relates to our Shopbot businesses. It just seems another means of Government constraint. Otherwise, why is there not just a warning label? You know like cigarettes? Those things that definitely kill us.
~viva small govt
khaos
09-03-2009, 10:45 PM
Justin, score big on the discounts. My guess is the replacement products will be more expensive.
srwtlc
09-03-2009, 11:38 PM
Symbolism over substance!
bcammack
09-04-2009, 08:47 AM
California is the rest of the country, five or ten years from now. Think of it as a civics laboratory. Two things that did not work out for them was Proposition 13 that froze property taxation and starved the government of funds and the law that allowed revisions to the state constitution by public referendum.
That left them with insufficient funding to support the population's needs and a regulatory climate that is subject to the whim of the "peepul" who are rather easily influenced by well-funded influence peddling groups.
At least the rest of the states can look to California and say, "Boy, we won't be doing THAT here!"
I was born there and lived there for many years. If you ever lived there you'd understand it, too. If nothing else, at least it gives you somewhere to look to and say, "Sure am glad I live here and not there!"
Have a happy Labor Day weekend.
cabnet636
09-04-2009, 09:59 AM
in 1974 i was sent to boot camp in san diego after growing up in south carolina, just when i thought that was culture shock i went to italy and travelled the mediteranian, north africa and the carribean for the 10 years after getting out of the navy, i have always since considered california to be the newest place on earth, history is kinder to change there and inovations in technology as well as many things are born there, unless one has seen the damage of eastern europe or coastlines that are constantly eroding here on the east coast then i would think twice about the efforts many make for clean water and air. california is not perfect on a trip to sanjose in 98 i was appalled at the trash along the interstates and hope things have changed, we are not doing so well here either with bugets and such.
jim
cabindoors
09-04-2009, 10:22 AM
Should you even be mentioning "Carbon Compliance Regulations" on this forum. The forum administrator obviously isn't comfortable with any of you discussing the second amendment...
You may say that there's no relationship between gun cases and Shopbots? What do I put in my gun cases made with my Shopbot? Marbles? What is the Carbon Footprint for marbles?
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