Mom, Knitted scarves for 3 grand daughters for Christmas but couldn't find any buttons she liked sooo.
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Mom, Knitted scarves for 3 grand daughters for Christmas but couldn't find any buttons she liked sooo.
What a great gift. Sweaters for the grand daughters and they are made by grandparents.
Happy Holidays
Great stuff Scott! I like seeing new ideas. While wood buttons are nothing new, I haven't seen anyone cutting them on a CNC.
-B
I couldn't tell based on the photos what size were the buttons? And did you measure the buttonhole first:confused::D
good job...:)
Thanks all, It was nice to do something for My mother. She's more impressed with the Desktop now. In the beginning she said "Is that all it can DO-Carve?", two days ago it was "Wow, it can make BUTTONS! Isn't it smart to know how to do that!(Cringe)". Jack, 1.5" OD , holes .02" diameter profiled ONLINE so she could use yarn. The extras were for my 5 aunts that knit bulky sweaters to pass around to their friends(Their sweaters go for $100+). I was told "Owls are IN". Birds eye maple .2" left over from barrister bookcase panels. Happy Holidays all.:)
I like the buttons. Great idea. :)
Phil
Uh-oh...Once they start telling their friends, you'll never stop making buttons! Ha! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by scottp55
-B
Nice, I have been thinking about jewelry but buttons have a function.
How thick IS an onionskin on hard maple, board was .2" birdseye, so it took the pointed roundover to .19" and without going into the embarrassing details(next time belt sander as my coarsest 5" was 100G and the holes didn't match),I spent 1.5 hours releasing the little bandits. NOOO I don't have a thickness sander and have never done an onionskin before(Yes Brady I should have researched- AND yes I should have done a trial cut on the edge of the board- and yes I should have surfaced BOTH sides of the .2" panel). Live and ...........I forget the last part.:)
I saw this neat little contraption @ the Ottawa camp years ago: http://stockroomsupply.ca/shop/drum-sanders.html It is a DIY drum sander kit that works really well. Nice affordable option for smaller stuff where you onion skin the parts with the intent of releasing them on the sander. Yeah I know...I linked to the same place AGAIN...but I had the site up & happened to remember.
-B
Brady and the group I have their 30 inch drum sander and I just love it! It works terrific. Got the notor from HF and fired it up. I cut the box on the bot and just used their basic kit (comes with the box drawings). Best part is very little dust in the air while sanding, almost entirely goes in the box with or without the DC running. Russ
Thanks Brady and Russ, Ran across that seems forever ago(5 months?:)). Glad to know it works. WAS .01" too thick for an onion skin on hard maple? Do NOT want to do that again without using my 4" belt sander:)
Scott - the buttons are awesome...not going to show my wife! Merry Christmas! Dick
I don't think .01 is too thick - but I think that you could have left a .01 tab at the start point to keep them held in. You could also avoid the tabs with carpet tape, with a little post cut cleanup with a damp alky rag.
One trick that I use with small parts is to use the smallest diameter bit I can while cutting out the parts. This has made a huge difference for me because it exerts less force on the part than a larger tool would. This combined with very light chipload (crank that RPM up on those small tools to get the surface feet per minute up [SFM]) and most things need just one or even no tabs. Tooling geometry can be exploited too...park the upcut spiral and go with a straight flute tool that has poor chip extraction - Keep those chips in the kerf to help hold the part in place.
-B
Using a .32" pointed roundover to "cut out with skin layer" I agree Brady wasn't the swiftest move I've ever made. After finishing them I think I should have added a cut-out line at the centerpoint of the PRO's cut and cut that out on the line(with 2 tabs-chicken) with my 1/8 straight like Brady said. Would have left me a .02" thick thick edge that would have beefed it up and made it a ton easier to sand/oil. Dick, smart move not showing the wife(2 guys with desktops already have-and I think it will interrupt production schedules :)). Brady, Thanks for the tips, made me rethink a lot of thin stuff in the pipeline. Oh, well. My Mom loved them-so it was worth it. She did make one comment as she left"Scott, Your brother has a ton of money(family car is Yukon(winter),blue Lotus sedan(summer)), but where could he buy buttons like these, and how much would they cost?". Merry Xmas all.
"Not available in any store. Call now to order. Operators are standing by." :DQuote:
Originally Posted by scottp55
-B
Brady, You forgot my other 2 products. Custom poker chips with value determined by wood species and my wooden Maine nickels:)
Another trick is one I learned from the scrollers, I use put down masking tape on my spoil board, then two sided tape and then put another piece of masking tape on the underside of the piece I'm cutting. I then stick the piece to the two sided tape already on the spoilboard. VERY easy cleanup afterwards. In a lot of cases, no tabs, and no onion skin, just sticky tape. Russ
Thanks Russ, good to know for future. This piece though was a test cut(band saw had died in middle of resawing 30 pieces for bookcases) on the unisaw and besides it being cupped the saw kerf was off by .02". Started being .27" thick and used screws in the middle of the cup to pull it down, after one side flat,only had .2" thickness left so I went for it. Need vac hold down to go into production and make my third million after Brady puts me on the home shopping network:)
Russ & Scott,
The 'marriage' of the 2 tape technique & vacuum is what I called 'The Vacuum Film Technique'. You can hold down just about anything with that method.
-B
I don't care what they say - you CAN teach an OLD dog new tricks!
Buttons look great! I still have some 1/10" plywood left over that I laminated from different color veneer for another project. I may give that a try for buttons.
I have not had much success for holding down small pieces (except for tabs). Thanks for all the tips here! I did try double sided high tack 3M foam tape one time and is was a big mess. The router bit ripped up the tape an slung adhesive boogers all over the shop.
Brady, Thought you recommended Ace Hardware cloth reinforced carpet tape(that's what I bought and haven't used yet). Thanks for the help on this-
I wrote that long ago...Yes - I've found Ace to be the best for our application. It must specifically say either "Fiberglass" or "Cloth" on the front of the box.
Can't find it on their site now...I hope that isn't a sign.
-B
Bought 3 weeks ago,
Ace carpet tape
cloth
heavy duty
#54308
That the stuff?
"DUCK" brand works well. They have medium sized rolls at Wally-world. I buy it from a distributor in NJ in LARGE rolls and a couple cases at a time.
Yes- that's the stuff. The the one that says 'Fiberglass' on front is even better than the one that says 'cloth'.
Monty - Yes the Duck stuff is good. I was using this until Depot stopped carrying it in my neck of the woods and replaced it with the mostly clear & 'snotty' stuff with like 3-5 tracer strings running through it. THAT stuff is NO good for CNC since you can't get the residue off the table! (Unless you scrape, douse with solvent, heat or machine it off)
-B
Brady: EXACTLY!! I hate their new stuff! I wish I could get them to carry the DUCK brand again! It's pretty good stuff! But a big kings x on the snotty stuff
Who's your source in NJ for Duck?
-B
I bought a few rolls of the outdoor fiberglass Duck tape based on your recommendation from Amazon.
Pretty cheap at $5 for a 42 ft roll. I am curious how that works.
Menards carries the fiberglass duck tape in Iowa.
Not sure if Menards is nation wide.
Yep $5 is a decent price. I am sure if I sniffed around online I could get a better price by the case. Thanks for the link. Looks like it is a Prime add-on so no shipping charge for 2-day if you have Prime.
Kenny - Nope. No Menards round these parts. They seem to be concentrated in the Midwest region.
-B
When I get into my accounting program, I will get the contact info for where I order it on line and will send it to you Brady. I order a couple cases at a time because I use it for a project that is other than ShopBot related.
For those who might be interested... This is the best stuff I have found as far as a double sided tape for temporary holding. You CAN buy small rolls at WalMart ( 1.4" x 42 feet???) ... we buy the biggest, longest rolls available. These are 1.88" x 75 feet and run about $9+/roll in multi case quantity...
on the web:
http://www.findtape.com/product647/D...px?idx=3&tid=7
physical:
FindTape.com LLC
1330 Rt. 206, #103-149
Skillman, NJ 08558
United States
questions@findtape.com
phone # 1-908-248-0427 or 1-800-806-7580 (800 # is U.S. only)*
fax # 1-866-698-9890
Thanks for the link. I need to stock up soon...
-B
Played with simple geometric fluting toolpathed buttons today. Finished sheet pics came out lousy. Wish I hadn't used Maple to proto (FUZZIES!!),surfaced .2" cherry ready to go first thing in morning (.25" stock was too thick for 3/8D-3/16R WHiteside Pointed Round Over bit to get into without leaving a "High Hat" ridge and touching design at buttonholes).
Do NOT put a 75W halogen 12" away from your right corner or the Ace Hardware carpet tape will start to lift a smidge when cutting out:eek:
How do you get rid of the tiny bit of adhesive residue fast and easily when you work in a warm shop?
On the adhesive residue. Depends on the adhesive. Paint thinner or alcohol that is what I use.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottp55
What is the buttons for???
Eugene, Ever since I made the first batch I keep getting asked when I'm making another. Hard to find graphics to buy that 2-4 buttonholes don't look bad,or carve horrible or too slow at 1-2" and the 2 I really like aren't for sale. So played with original/generic patterns for 1/8" BN and fluting gives me the recessed flat in center.
High end Knitters up here for expensive sweaters and such like the bigger ones, and need low price/high quality leaders for the booth table at Kirks Acadian Congress fair in 10 days(50,000 door per day) so thought I'd pump a dozen sheets out to help.
I MAY regret it, but they're fairly fast and design is mine.
Whichever design/wood needs the LEAST amount of sanding will be my favorite :), but tops and bottoms already at 220G before carving.
I almost missed this nugget. http://www.chevyequinoxforum.com/ima...nana-mario.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by bradywatson