"woodwright"
I believe you are full of bluster. The ONLY reason for posting that was to poke John in the nose. And not a single person here who has ever owned and operated a large ShopBot (and I have owned a NUMBER of them (4+ and counting)) would be a buyer at ANY where near that price. One might as well put 10+ K onto it and get a brand new machine with ATC and modern electronics and the latest in the Y gantry and Z supports. John tried to call this out early so you could accomplish your sales/timing goals. And now you just want to metaphorically punch him a bit to make him look like the one who is uninformed. Bad form. No one is impressed. And if you DID do this to someone, you don't really have the ethics to play with this group. Please enjoy your retirement and play elsewhere.