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    Default I want a new dust collection system.

    I have been running a Delta 1.5 HP dust collector and I get by with it. It is mounted on a cart and I keep it hooked up to my SB and my manual router table it is Y'd to both the SB CNC and manual router table each hose has a plastic blast gate at the DC end. When I run my cabinet saw I switch the one hose over to my cabinet saw.

    I cut plastic almost exclusively the chips the routers make are easily picked up but the saws makes this stringy stuff that is like steel wool and plugs the duct so I have finally given up using it and just clean the cabinet saw out by hand and use a shop vacuum on the chop saw. The plastic really does not make much dust at least that can be seen.

    My system is pretty basic but the cart is in the way and the hoses lying on the floor are a pain. I am going to build a small room on the end of the shop and I would like to add a new DC system in there and also move my 7.5 HP air compressor out to gain more room in the shop and reduce shop noise. I plan to have a double door outside to access both machines I would also like to put in a small door to allow emptying the chip bin from inside. The plastic likes to get statically charged and fly around when emptying the system and I don't want that mess outside it is easier to vacuum up the mess if it is on the concrete floor inside the shop. I plan to put a bathroom vent fan in the room with vents in the bottom to keep the room cool for the machines. I will insulate the walls to help keep the noise from escaping outside.

    I have a 20 amp 220 service already in that corner I could use to power the DC and the air compressor service will reach the location also. I am just starting the search but I am thinking I would like a cyclone type collector. I have been looking at the Grizzley tool models and I am thinking the 2 or 3 HP models does anyone on here use one of those models? Can you turn me on to some other brands as well?

    I am thinking I would like to duct the unit onto the ceiling and then have drops for my cabinet saw, SB CNC, Manual router table, chop saw, panel saw & band saw.

    Thanks Mike
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    I have an Oneida 3HP Dust Gorilla cyclone. Love it.

    /RB

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    I have the Grizzly 3Hp cyclone.Great machine for the price !\
    It sucks all the dust I create on my Bot and other tools.
    http://www.WoodworkingByErminio.com

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    Always compare the static pressure rating of chip collectors. Many people only focus on the CFM rating. Static pressure is just as important as CFM.

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    You could get by with the 2hp cyclone based on what I gather from your info, but 3 would be better.

    Run metal piping overhead to clear the floor and keep the static down.

    The only down side to having the DC in another room is forgetting to check that it is full.
    Kenneth

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    I use an exterior chip box. My DC doesn't have any filters or bags, the exhaust goes through the wall to the box outside. No worries about bags filling up of filters to purchase. I empty my chip box once or twice a year. I have a 16 year old Grizzly 1.5 HP dust collector that does a fine job once I stripped it down to just the pump and motor.

    I am in the process of moving my DC pump outside mounting it on the end of the chip box. I won't miss the noise even though it hasn't been that much of an issue through the years. This type of system works really well and is a cheap alternative to high end cyclones if you live in an area where the weather is moderate. There is actually very little effect on my shop temperature.
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    I use two dust collectors in my shop. One is a big 4-bag 5hp Delta (located in a separate room) pulling 2450cfm through 6",5" and 4" metal duct with blast gates at each tool. The other is a 1.5hp cheap import from Harbor Freight hooked to the CNC. Since I run the CNC on long carving projects at times, I wanted a DC smaller then my Delta running for hours on end (electric use). The 1.5hp on the CNC does a good job of sucking up the chips in spite of the stock CNC dust collector foot. I will be building one of GC's dust foots and I figure my dust collection efficiency will increase exponentially.
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    If you want to know about dust collection, check out http://billpentz.com. There is enough information there to make your head hurt. But you should be able to make an informed decision. Make your own if you have time.

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    I can't just blow mine outside in a box I live in town and have neighbors + the plastic chips would take flight and be a huge mess it is not like saw dust if a little ends up in the yard it is biodegradable the plastic is forever.

    I have one of Gary's dust feet and it is a huge upgrade from the stock foot. I had a 4" roller break loose I was cutting out of 1.25" UHMW and it cracked the dust foot I got from Gary but it still works better than the original. I have all the parts to make another one I have just not taken the time to do it yet because I am still getting by with the broken one.

    I was just outside measuring the space and it is going to be tight with the air compressor & DC. I was thinking of getting the Grizzly but it is real wide so I may have to get another brand. The clearvue seems expensive for what you get. For the price they are charging it seems it should be more complete and not leaving a large part to be built by the purchaser IMHO. The Oneida & Penn State may work I am going to go 3HP.

    Mike
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    Mike...
    Watch out when you put the DC in a room with the compressor. The compressor will be taking in anything that gets by the DC
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