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    Default Vacuum Table

    Finally time to build my vacuum table. Black box is ready to go. Just wondering about cutting my plenum, sealing it up, and using a gasket between plenum and spoil board (Tupan),seal up the edges and pop in a few dowels to keep the spoil board aligned. Any thoughts? 99% of my work is panel processing for cabinets. Or would gluing the spoil board on be the better way to go?

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    We glue ours on, works well.
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    I glue mine on. The last time I changed my spoil board I glued it down with Loctite Powergrab. It gave me a lot more time to place the adhesive on all the "hills" of the plenum and around the perimeter than the previous times when I used Titbond.
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    I have the 4 zone vac plenum that is in the SB files. I divide my spoil board into 4 sections and put a piece of 6 mill Sintra between each section to stop bleed over. When I first got my Shopbot I used the whole sheet and one day when I was only using one zone I had a piece of plexi sitting on the table at the opposite corner and went to push it so I could do some other work and noticed that it was being held there by the bleed over.

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    I sealed my plenum with watered down Titebond II. It has served me well.

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    Jerry...what kind of vacuum are you using

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMCS View Post
    Finally time to build my vacuum table. Black box is ready to go. Just wondering about cutting my plenum, sealing it up, and using a gasket between plenum and spoil board (Tupan),seal up the edges and pop in a few dowels to keep the spoil board aligned. Any thoughts? 99% of my work is panel processing for cabinets. Or would gluing the spoil board on be the better way to go?
    I use a bead of caulk to secure the 3/4" spoil board to the plenum. Then run the vacuum for a couple hours to holde the spoil board flat until caulk sets up. I have 7 zones in my table (using a black box with valves for each zone) and each zone is a separate sheet of Trupan with plastic (melamine) edgebanding to seal the edges. When all the zone pieces are in, I caulk all the way around the outside of the spoil board to seal it up. I mark with a red marker where I put caulk down in the plenum field to hold the zone pieces. When my spoil board gets down to about 1/4" I grind it off until I see the red marks. At that point I am ready to put a new spoil board on. Since 2009 I've replaced my spoil board twice (and using the current one since early 2014). For small parts I use a 1" thick piece of MDO with T-tracks to hold the material. The MDO is held in place with the vacuum system. I haven't cut into my spoil board directly in about 5 years.

    95% of my work is panel processing. I don't cut directly on the spoil board. I use 1/8" MDF ($5.00 from my local supplier) skinned both sides as a sacrificial board on top of the spoil board. When cutting is complete I slide the panel and sacrificial board onto an outfeed table, load up another sacrificial board and material to cut and get it started while my helper is labeling and processing parts from the previous sheet. Another benefit is that when I am going to be cutting a sheet of smaller parts, I can use a new sacrificial board (like resurfacing your spoil board) so I get really good hold down from the vacuum. When cutting sheets with larger parts I can use an older sacrificial board and still hold the parts in place with no problem. I can normally cut 10 to 15 plywood panels (depending on size of parts being cut) per side of the sacrificial board, sometimes more. For a typical cabinet job (25 to 35 cabinets), I might purchase 5 or 6 of the 1/8" MDF sacrificial boards.

    Using this method, I only surface my spoil board at the start of each panel processing job. So I limit my surfacing to about 10 to 12 times a year (start of each cabinet job) taking at most 1/32" off the spoil board directly. This is done to account for seasonal climate changes and any movement in the CNC.
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    I have 2 Fein vacs. My plenum is 1 inch sintra that I skinned to level it and give it some bite for the Tite bond III

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry_stanek View Post
    I have the 4 zone vac plenum that is in the SB files. I divide my spoil board into 4 sections and put a piece of 6 mill Sintra between each section to stop bleed over. When I first got my Shopbot I used the whole sheet and one day when I was only using one zone I had a piece of plexi sitting on the table at the opposite corner and went to push it so I could do some other work and noticed that it was being held there by the bleed over.
    I do the same but just coat the inside edges with the glue to seal them its easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight_toolworks View Post
    I do the same but just coat the inside edges with the glue to seal them its easier.
    The reason I use the sintra is I have tons of scrape pieces and the edges get a coat of glue when I install it. I use the sintra to register the piece also

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